“Hello, my friend and I are hoping to explore Nepal for around 10 days. We would love to be able to do the Annapurna Dhaulagiri Panorama Trek. Can you help us with how to obtain a permit? We would also need to rent a backpacking tent potentially; we can look into buying one somewhere if that is not possible”
Mads Mathiasen, a local specialist from Nepal, helped this traveler put together a customized itinerary based on Khopra Danda Trek - A great off the beaten path trek in the Annapurna region.
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Nice to meet here. Annapurna Dhaulagiri is a great trek; you're going to enjoy it! You can buy/rent a tent in Thamel, Kathmandu, and also in Pokhara. Kathmandu is better, though, as it has more options.
i) TIMS ($10 if you're guided; $20 for independent trekkers)
ii) ACAP ($20)
Both these permits can be arranged in Kathmandu or Pokhara.
Day 01 - Arrive in Kathmandu
Day 02 - Kathmandu
Day 03 - Fly from Kathmandu to Pokhara; trek to Tirkhedhunga (teahouse)
Day 04 - Tirkhedhunga to Ghorepani (teahouse)
Day 05 - Ghorepani to Dhankharka (teahouse)
Day 06 - Dhankharka to Khopra (camping)
Day 07 - Khopra to Poudwar (teahouse)
Day 08 - Poudwar to Pokhara
Day 09 - Pokhara to Kathmandu
Day 10 - Depart Kathmandu
Keep in mind that this is one of the faster itineraries, and that there are a number of variations to this trek. Most routes include an extra day, which we could add into the above itinerary depending on when you arrive and depart from Kathmandu. If you're thinking of camping, one recommendation would be to hire a guide/porter who can help carry your gear, as well. Happy to bring in one of our local experts to help arrange all this, if you'd like.
We are pretty flexible to the schedule. If we added an extra day would that help? We are thinking of camping; how much are the charges for a guide?
(Thanks so much for your help by the way!)
Another quick question, how is Nepal doing now in the aftermath of the earthquake?
An extra day would help and also give you more time to enjoy the views; so definitely worth it, unless you're short on time. Nice part about camping is that it'll free you up from being dependent on teahouses, and give you the option to camp a littler higher up the ridge from the Khopra teahouse (which is sometimes full). I invited one of our local experts into the conversation who can give you a quote for a guide and also make a few recommendations of their own.
Regarding the situation in Nepal post-earthquake, I haven't been back since it happened, but from all accounts things have mostly returned to normal, except in the villages that are still being re-built (which is taking some time due to the difficulties of delivering aid in Nepal). There was a major issue with fuel shortage due to a protest along the India/Nepal border, but that seems to have eased up now. But there's nothing to worry about as a traveller visiting Nepal now, if that was your concern :)
What dates were you thinking of visiting this summer? It will be monsoon season from June - end of August
Hi, I would be happy to help you with a Khopra Danda trek, it is pretty amazing up there and I have couple of suggestions for a slightly longer version of this trek which takes in another off the beaten path view point at Muldai which I just love.
I would suggest the following itinerary:
Day 1: Welcome to Nepal
Day 2: Kathmandu
Day 3: Fly to Pokhara, drive to Shyauli Bazaar, trek to Ghandruk (1950m)
Day 4: Trek to Tadapani (2650m)
Day 5: Trek Tadapani to Dobato (3420m)
Day 6: Dobato to Upper Chistibang (2975m)
Day 7: Upper Chistibang to Khopra Danda (3660m)
Day 8: In Khopra Danda – rest or day trip to Khayer Tal
Day 9: Khopra Danda to Swanta (2200m)
Day 10: Swanta to Tirkhedhunga
Day 11: Trek Tirkhedhunga to Naya pul, drive to Pokhara and fly to Kathmandu
Day 12: Farewell for now
Starting 20th of May or around then is perfect! The only reason I would take a tent is to be sure to have place to sleep while at Khopra as the community lodge there is pretty small. I would still recommend you had your meals in the lodge and just had the tent as a backup.
So if you are happy with a couple of days extra as per above, I can put a price together for you for the whole lots, hotels in Kathmandu, flights to and from Pokhara and a porter and guide for the trek with everything included.
If you are on a budget we are also happy to give you a price without meals included while on trek but to be honest you will not save a lot if anything by paying directly to the lodges.
I am also happy to give you a proposal without hotels in Kathmandu included, please just let me know how you would like me to quote.
Wow!!! thank you both this is so very helpful!
We could definitely rent a tent in Nepal just to be safe, or purchase a backpacking tent before arriving.
We are flexible so a couple extra days is no problem. Could you give us a price for the whole trek?
With meals is fine, and could you include the hotels in Kathmandu?
Hi, hope you have had a good weekend! Sorry to have kept you waiting for this but here is the itinerary I propose for your Nepal holiday [link removed]
We will bring along one of our tents free of charge, just in case you need it up at Khopra.
I have kept the Kathmandu day open but please do let me know if you want any help with sightseeing on that day
also don't hesitate to ask if you have any questions or want to make any changes to the above itinerary, I will be looking forward to helping you with this amazing trek!
Wow the plan looks perfect for us!!!
Can we set this plan in place? Is there anything you need us to specifically book? How can we help?
Also, how do we arrange payments for everything?
We are planning on arriving in Kathmandu on the 20th and then flying out of Kathmandu to Thailand the 31st or the 1st
Actually, we are looking at flying in to Kathmandu on the 21st. Sorry about that. So the first day of the itinerary would be the 21st?
Hi, that sounds great that you are ready to book this, it is a super nice trek, so you will be happy! 21st May to 1st June is perfect in terms length for this itinerary. Please just go ahead and book your flights and send me the details when you have them. Also I will need a copy of each of your personal details page from your passport, no rush. Please send it to email@example.com when you have a chance
Next step is that Alex will send you a payment request and then it is all go from there
Hi, adding the payment form below, here, for whenever you're ready:
Thanks. We received your payment. Mads will be in touch with the next steps! Feel free to send him the details he asked for via email, when ready.
No problem! We will send it as soon as possible. Thanks for everything!
Perfect. You're going to have a great trek! I'll be here along the way to help with anything, along with Mads.
Hi, Just wanted to send you our country dossier for Nepal which has lots of little great tips about travel to Nepal https://cdn.kimkim.com/trip_plans/kimkim-ht-nepal-country-dossier.pdf
also here is a little guide to arrival in the sometimes hectic Kathmandu airport https://cdn.kimkim.com/trip_plans/kimkim-ht-kathmandu-airport-tips-office-contact.pdf
The two documents Mads shared cover most of the details, but I'm adding this article, as well, in case it helps with your visa.
I skimmed through the documents you sent us. Is there a specific gear list you think we should bring? Or should we just stick to the general list?
Hi, here is a tea house trekking specific gear list https://cdn.kimkim.com/trip_plans/kimkim-ht-gear-list-teahouse-treks.pdf
Hi, hope everything is going well leading up to your departure! Any last-minute questions we can help with?
Hi! Everything is going well! Em and I are really excited for the trek. No last minute questions as of right now, but we will be sure to let you know! Thanks!!
Sounds good. You're going to have a a great trek!
Safe travels tomorrow. Feel free to reach out to us during you trip in case we can help with anything. We'll send you a short trip review form once you're back so we can hear how everything went
Had a wonderful experience. The trip was everything we could have asked for.