“We are a couple over 50 years, we enjoy nature and wildlife. We already have some wishes: Kathmandu City, Buddha Air flight to Everest, Chitwan National Park (NO elephants). We'd like high-end hotels, but not super luxurious. Our favorite places to stay have been really nice hotels/lodges in exotic situations. ”
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Hello, We would be delighted to help you put your Nepal holiday together. You have some great wishes already and they will certainly give you a good experience of Nepal.
I have a few place I would suggest where you can get the feeling of being in the mountains without having to hike for many hours. These places are mainly around Pokhara which would give you another aspect of Nepal from Chitwan and Kathmandu. I would be more than happy to put together a proposal for the whole thing, but I just need to know about your preferences in terms of accommodation.
We generally recommend accommodation which is in touch with the culture and nature, so no Radisson or international chains but what I need to know is if you would like budget, mid range or high end accommodation. Or of course a mix with the best of each. If you could let me know that, then I will put together a plan for you.
Btw November is a great choice of time to come to Nepal, the main rush of the October season will be over but you will actually have clearer weather, so better mountains views.
Hi Mads, nice to hear from you and your suggestion about Pokhara sounds very reasonable. Although we don't always need to have 5 star, ultra-luxury hotels, I would say that high-end is more our style. Our favourite places to stay have been really nice hotels/lodges in exotic situations. We look forward to hearing your detailed plan.
Thank you , I will put together a proposal for you, we can do something really special for you within the two weeks and using nice lodges and hotels.
I should be able to have this put together for you by the around this time tomorrrow
I totally understand that you don't want elephant rides! Something you might want to experience is Tiger Tops Elephant camp, where you can experience the elephants in their new life where they don't do rides http://tigertopselephantcamp.com/ it is worthwhile as these elephants cannot be set free after a life as domesticated elephants so it is important that they can still be part of an experience and bring in income without the abuse of the rides. Let me know if you would like to include a night in the elephant camp
Hi Mads, yes we just spent some time Googling TigerTops and it sounds brilliant - we will definitely go for that.
great I will build in that experience as well
Hi, I have now got a proposal ready for you, I have used some nice properties, some of my favorites in the country. Some small ones with lots of character and a couple of newer resorts which rank as probably the best two hotel in Nepal at the moment in my opinion. Have a look at it below:
You will see I have based this on a little hotel in the old part of Patan for your first visit in Kathmandu, it is such a beautiful little hotel which really gives you the sense of being in a world heritage site. The 2nd visit in Kathmandu, I have given you a bit of a bigger hotel but still with some traditional touches on the norther side of town. If you would like to stay in the absolute best hotel in Kathmandu, Dwarikas, then I have given you and upgrade price for this. It is an amazing place and worth having a look at: http://www.dwarikas.com/?clicked_landing_page=1
Have a read through this and let me know what you think, we can of course make changes and tweak it, if there are something that you don't think match your expectations. Any questions, please don't hesitate to ask!
Hi Mads, Many thanks for your efforts. We received your proposal and find it very interesting and enticing. We are discussing it and will have a few suggestions for changes in the next few days.
I am glad you like the proposal, do let me know when you have had a good look at it, we are happy to adjust anything, so it can be the best possible holiday for you!
Hi Mads, well I am happy to hear that you are happy to make some changes because we have a few. Basically, we felt that we were most interested in the nature rather than the cultural parts and at the same time the total cost seemed a bit extravagant, so, here is what we would like to suggest:
Days 1 and 2 are fine, the arrival in Kathmandu and some visiting of the "classics" - the monkey and 8-eye temples. Given this day and the day at the end of the tour (after the Everest flight) in Kathmandu, however, we wondered whether we couldn't add a short visit to Shivapuri National Park which is very close to Kathmandu and by all accounts is quite charming, and we would eliminate the proposed Day 3 in Bhaktapur. The Chitwan part from Days 4 to 7 is wonderful and we like it just the way it is. On Days 8 and 9, we find Pokhara not really interesting enough for that time and would prefer to drive straight to the Gurung lodge in Majhgaon, which sounds fantastic (so proposed Days 10 and 11 should stay as proposed, while proposed Days 8 and 9 would be eliminated). Thereafter we return to Kathmandu for 2 days including the Everst flight and where we can add the Shivapuri visit if not possible previously. Here we might save another day, but that might be cutting things a bit too tight, but we think with this plan we could save 3-4 days and considerable expense. Finally, we noticed that the price quoted includes a guide for the entire trip. I understand that we will need a driver, but I really wonder whether it is worthwhile having a guide for the entire trip when much of the time will be spent at lodges, or hiking about, or in National Parks where an additional National Park service guide will almost certainly be necessary? Can you consider whether this is really necessary?
Hi, all very well considered thoughts and I am happy to adjust things accordingly. As a little side note, I lived up in the Shivapuri National park for 5 years till October last year, so I can happily tell you that it is wonderful! Some of the best places are a little hard to get to but I will make sure you get the best possible experience of it. I think if you don't have the Pokhara stay you can probably do without having the guide come along all the way, we will make sure you have a wonderful driver. I will have a look at this first thing tomorrow and should be able to have a new proposal ready for you tomorrow afternoon. thanks, Mads.
I just uploaded version 2 of your Nepal trip, have a look and see what you think. Without the guide and the nights in Pokhara the price has come back a fair bit! I have you up in Shivapuri in one of my favorite places for one night, it is really the way to experience the park, if you can't go for a big walk in it. We could still cut it one day shorter if we put the Everest flight on one of your first days in Kathmandu but it will get a bit hectic. Let me know what you think and do not hesitate to let me know if you still think there needs to be some changes. Thanks, Mads
Hi Mads, thanks we got your second version and from a quick glance it looks fantastic. We will get back to you after we have had a chance to go through it more carefully in the next few days. Cheers,
Thanks, I will be looking forward to hearing from you, if you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask
Hi Mads, Sorry for the long silence. We really love your new plan. The only minor adjustment is that we usually don't eat lunch when travelling, so there is no need to include this for any of the travel days. We are looking to guarantee the exact travel times and reserve dog sitters, etc. Is there anything we need to know from you about the precise days of travel? Cheers
I will take out the meals when I am near my computer next and can look at the cost. It might have to wait till Monday but until then you can look at dates. There is nothing from our side that make any date better than others but of course I cannot guarantee availability at all the hotels till I have some dates from your side and can check with the hotels. I am glad you like the new plan and will be looking forward to hosting you in Nepal!
I have just looked at this there are two lunches included on travel days, the one to Chitwan and one traveling to Pokhara. The are both included in the package prices with the resorts/hotels you are staying at those two nights, so there is really no saving in not having the meals. Sorry I could tell you that on Saturday but I didn't have my computer with me at the time. If you can work out the best dates for your travel, then we can check hotel availability and we can get on with booking everything if you are ready. Thanks, Mads.
Hi Mads, Sure, I wasn't expecting a huge savings by scipping lunch but just so our drivers or guides/hotels know that we won't be doing it. On some of our travels, the drivers took a little while to get used to the idea. We have looked at the calendar and would like ourtravel days to be from 19 November (day of arrival) to 01 December (day of departure). There were a number of reasonable flights for these days but we are fairly flexible if there is a problem with any part of our itinerary - we could happily move it a few days later. Cheers,
Hi, no problem with the meals, I will let drivers and hotels know. We have just done a ring around to the hotels and they all have rooms for you, if you arrive on the 19th November. I have just added the dates in the dossier, as the actual departure day will be 30th November, just so there is no confusion when you book flights. If you are ready, we will add a payment for here? Any questions as always please just ask! Cheers, Mads.
Hi Mads, oooops, sorry, I made a mistake which you noticed in that the day of arrival is 20 November - day of departure is 01 December. Cheers,
okay, I think it should be fine...
Let us check quickly, I will get back to you though it is getting a bit late here and there might not be people in all the hotel offices anymore
Yep it is a bit too late, we cannot confirm the hotels today, but should have it done pretty early tomorrow. Thanks, Mads.
Okay we got confirmation from all the hotels for 20th November to 1st December, so it is good to go. If you are ready to book, here is a link for payment:  of course if you have any questions, please just ask.
Thanks for booking, to get you ready for your travel to Nepal, I will upload our Nepal dossier with lots of handy info about Nepal below. Closer to your time of travel I will send you airport arrival tips as well. If you have questions, please don't hesitate to ask. Thanks, Mads.
Perfect Mads! Thank you very much!
Hi, your trip to Nepal is coming up soon, I hope you are getting very excited! Just so you know how to find us once you get out of the airport in Kathmandu, I will give you some airport hints below. Really looking forward to hosting you in Nepal! Kind regards, Mads.
Hi Mads, we had a fantastic trip and the organization was phenomenal - where would you like me to write a review? Cheers,
Hi, that is great to hear, really glad you liked the trip. A review here on kimkim.com would be great, I think somewhere up the top of your screen there should be somewhere to access the trip review page. Cheers, Mads.
The organization was superb. We do these kind of trips a lot and I can honestly say that we have never had one as well organized as this one. At every step, the drivers or guides were always ready for us and every aspect happened like clockwork. We live in Germany where you expect that kind of organization, but to enjoy it in Nepal hardly seemed possible. Our congratulations on a job well done! Also, the guides were all fantastic - friendly and knowledgeable. Most national parks in the world have guides who know the big animals and birds of prey, but our guides in Chitwan knew every bird and butterfly as well.
We discussed the trip and made changes to his original concept several times but he never tried to force us into his plan and cheerily re-worked the itinerary until we were happy with it.